Heartstopper

Joe and Kit accepting an award recently.

I think this is new? Video from the con of Joe and Bash getting on Kit and Will’s backs for a picture. The way they jump on is cracking me up for some reason.

R2 Joe is so tiny he flies up on Kit’s back. That’s so funny

Please don’t continue here. Let this pedo insanity die at long last.

Get a life girls, and a man who treats you right. Happiness will come.

R2 That’s v cute. Where are they getting all these from? For some reason I thought they were queueing off to the right but maybe not.

From my understanding, one of the fans was hired to take pictures and videos at the con or got a press pass or something like that and she recorded the video. She has pictures and some clips on her page.

I really can’t wait for Joe’s MCU era

Does this mean Joe needs to bulk up like Kit did for his Marvel role? If so, will he be able to go back to Charlie's thin frame when it comes to filming HS season 3?

Wiccan is an all powerful magical twink. He doesn't need to get bulky.

Wiccan is pretty thin and Joe won’t really have time to bulk up.

Think they’ll leave Joe alone frame wise. Probably have him work out a bit before a young avengers film but he’s meant to be really thin and Wiccan is magical rather than a hulk / captain America physical fighting type

Kit’s still using TikTok, he left a comment on Kizzy’s partner’s video of Kizzy.

[quote]heartstoppertv: Congratulations to all of our cast and crew of season 1 for the nominations and wins that we’ve received for the show so far! What a team! 🏆🍂

R12 That’s sweet - he knows Beth, doesn’t he? I wonder how.

R14 I’ve never seen an official confirmation of this, but I think Kit and Beth went to the same school. He’s definitely been friends with Beth longer than he’s known Kizzy. Kit appears to have been their matchmaker.

R15 wasn’t Kit’s school all boys? I buy that he introduced them, just thought he went to an all male school

R15 Definitely an all-boys school, but I guess maybe primary school? Or just a friend or a friend. Very sweet if he was the matchmaker.

R16 your right, Kit did go to an all boys school. But Beth seems to be friends with a lot of Kit’s school friends. Maybe she went to the girls school most closely tied to his school. They were “school friends” while attending separate schools.

So assuming Kit and Joe attend the GQ awards tonight, do we reckon any of the other cast will go? No idea how these particular awards work

It’s not really a show thing so I would say unlikely unless they decide to take Bash and Will as +1s.

R19 I’d guess they’re certainly attending; Joe just followed the GQ fashion editor today. Hopefully they take Bash and Will; they all seem to enjoy hanging out in a group of four and I’d be interested to see what they all wear.

Did someone say it isn't streamed but there may be a couple of video clips? Sort of like the Attitude Awards?

That’s what they’ve done in previous years. It sounds like there’s a format change this year, but I imagine we’ll get clips from the dinner.

[quote]Rather than honouring people in a distinct “awards” section of the issue, the entire MOTY issue will become a celebration of the people who dominated culture and shaped the zeitgeist of 2022. The GQ MOTY event will be refreshed and elevated to be even more glamorous, star-studded and exclusive. It will now take place in two-parts: an exclusive celebrity dinner, followed by a larger-scale party in an experiential space with 200 people in attendance.

I'm going to assume just Joe and Kit go with each other.

Tickets are insanely expensive. The event is limited to a few hundred people and it cost £55,000 to buy a table for ten. It will be a great networking event for whoever goes, but I doubt Bash and Will join Joe and Kit as a foursome. It seems a bit too high profile of an event for Kit to have Will as his official +1. If they make it a more casual group thing, lots of fans will rage about Bash attending instead of Yaz. I could possibly see Patrick and Eros attending along with Joe and Kit, not as guest but simply as important people in the industry who want to network.

Looks like Bash is going.

Gotta love the hairy legs

Everyone's in boring suits, so the shorts are at least interesting. I was wrong about him going, but seems like it's via Harry Lambert, and not as just a +1

I suspect he probably is a +1 and has just been styled by Harry Lambert

R32 I guessed the same but I suppose we won’t actually know. Nice that if the former, they’re finding a way to take one another to the events they want to attend together while still being low key as they seem to prefer

It will be interesting to see who Kit brings as his +1, Will maybe?

Those shorts are….a choice.

I reckon R32 is right, they clearly didn't arrive together. Joe's red carpet pictures wouldn't be taking as long.

I'm sorry, I meant I think r31 is right and Bash isn't there as a +1.

R38 I'm R31 and not arriving together doesn't mean much. The honorees who got covers come later. Hardly any of those have arrived yet

Yall were right about Wills and Bash being t he +1's. I bow down to you

And I keep thinking Tom Daley is Joe hanging out with an old man

R40 I laughed - I love Tom Daley but how young he was getting with DLB is always weird to me

R39 will is so good looking but recently always looks like he’s wearing his dad’s suits. Was there a black and white dress code I’m unaware of? Aside from metallics no one is wearing colour

John Boyega is the only one really standing out right now.

R43 is he there? I don’t see him on Getty

r44 Yep, here’s a picture.

R42 Seems to be in style nowadays. Wish he'd wear something like what is Stormzy is wearing, who is best dressed for me so far. Will has great long legs and you can't tell with the dad pants from the 90's

You might also find Joe and Kit are filming some sort of get ready with me type thing for GQ, similar to the Dior fashion show, hence why their plus 1's went ahead without them

R47 that would track with Joe just following the GQ fashion editor today (Kit already followed him).

Unless they can't make it and Bash and Will are accepting on their behalf, that would actually be quite funny after all this

I’ve honestly swung around to finding this crew member hilarious. His efforts to get fans invested in his mundane life while 4 actors from the show are literally at the GQ awards rn are funny to me

What a plot twist. But how shit if they couldn't get the night off... You know they'd get the night off if it were for the show. I still got hope.

Kit’s hair stylist is at the Mandarin Oriental as well. Maybe they did shoot a GRWM video.

One of the designers whose clothing Joe and Kit wore in the magazine posted a picture of them today saying “can’t wait to celebrate these two tonight”. They’re certainly going IMO (this will be hilarious overconfidence if I’m wrong)

Honestly, I’m guessing part of getting the cover involved agreeing to go to the event for it.

Maybe they just didn't walk the red carpet... I guess. Getty not really updating with too many new people

If you follow @21metgala on twitter they are doing arrivals quicker than Getty from what I can see, so Getty seems to be a bit slow

If Yaz is there.. Joe and Kit have to be since I seriously doubt they'd be the only two filming

This page is updated quicker than the old one

Bash’s article (in his thread) said Yaz, Kit, Will, and Joe would all be attending so we’ll see them soon.

Yeah, I enjoyed the part where he said they all lived close to each other. Joe maybe a little closer than the others perhaps

Did Yaz move to London then or is he talking about the HS accommodations?

Bash, Will, and Yaz have all been a miss so far so I'm hoping that Joe and Kit pull it off.

[quote]“I'm equally nervous and excited," Sebastian Croft tells us from his hotel room ahead of his first-ever GQ MOTY. The actor explains the thing that's calming his nerves is the RSVPs of his Hearstopper co-stars: Yasmin Finney, Sebastian Croft, Kit Connor and Joe Locke. “It's going to be like a big Heartstopper party! We all live close to each other and host these Come Dine With Me-style parties, we're all so close and seeing one another thrive in this new environment will be surreal, but so exciting.”

R66 Assuming she has moved to London. Though somehow I feel the cute dinner parties are probably more Will, Kit, Joe and Bash.

Joe lives about as close as can be.

That’s a great pic. His stylist takes very flattering photos of hin

Also guessing it’s a full Prada look

Kit has perfect skin so I don’t get why his hair stylist always overfilters the pictures.

He looks great! There has been a subtle femininity to his event looks lately that I really enjoy.

I rarely find Kit attractive (mostly because I’m far too old) but he does look good here. I like his hair.

Where's Joe and Kit. Someone find them

Joe’s stylist is obsessed with pink. Looks like he’s wearing an ear cuff. Cute story, Bash

Legitimately what the hell are they doing that they’re both so late? A GRWM video? Filming of the show ran late for them?

Oh Bash came through. Thanks Bash

They both look great from the waist up but after Bash I’m going to reserve judgment until we get the full looks.

The ear cuff is actually a smart / nice reference to the insecurities and bullying he mentioned re his ears. Nice both he and bash decided to dress to highlight the things they felt self conscious about

I love an earring on a man but not sure about the chunkiness of that ear cuff. I’ll judge in better light!

[quote]Gao was in attendance to toast his co-stars and GQ cover stars Joe Locke and Kit Connor, who were honourees at the event, but he still managed to come into his own. “It's really exciting to be here with the boys,” Gao told us ahead of the event from an undisclosed location in Manchester, where he is closing week nine of Heartstopper series two filming. “I'm excited to finish the project, the second series will really excite fans.

Filming in Manchester though? And seems like the boys came together.

Filming in Manchester?! I wonder why on earth they’d need to come up here? I’ll have to go on the hunt for them. (Obviously joking)

I'm guessing GQ is full of shit or mistaken.

Wow, they look good. Is Kit’s photo really filtered or is he wearing a fair bit of makeup? I think that’s partly what gives it the slightly feminine look. Similar vibe to his Attitude look (face wise).

Also lovely little nugget of information with the Come Dine With Me parties. Seems that they hang out even more socially than we realised.

R90 his stylist always filters his pics for some reason; he has great skin so it’s dumb. Always presumed they hung out and talked more than they were given credit for. Even before the show came out, they had hangouts they didn’t post till ages later (Kit’s post for Joe’s 18th birthday was a clip from Bash’s house) and given bash and Joe live together and likely 0 of them want fans pinpointing where they live anyway, they post pretty rarely

R90 I think it’s a filter and lighting based on how he looks in Brady’s pictures versus how he turns up at events. He looks washed out and softened almost unnaturally when Brady posts but looks much better at the events. Noticed that especially at the Attitude Awards.

R90 His stylist always uploads pictures that look great but don't really look like him. Probably filters, which he obviously doesn't need

It makes sense they’d be having more dinner parties now that they get stopped by fans when out and about. The cast was constantly together when filming s1, and now they all know each other better and admit themselves they’re even closer friends.

I do love that Bash calls them “Come Dine With Me Parties” and probably makes them all wear crazy outfits.

I'm assuming that's when Joe bakes

They both look great but Joe has absolutely killed it the past few appearances

The height difference there! They both look fantastic.

Why does Joe look so tiny. Also red not pink

Both look great, my favorites of the cast for the night, no notes.

Guessing that Joe and Kit are getting their own round-up article with pictures at some point because they’re both missing from all of the GQ MOTY event galleries on their site.

R101 I think others are right and it may well be a video. Would be smart - their banter is funny and it would play up the joint cover etc.

Getty has tons of images.

Joe's shoes are interesting. Not a huge fan of Kit's unbottoned shirt again

I like that when Joe commits to a look he commits. They’re both really pulling off these looks

R106 I’m not a shipper but they’re looking very Nick and Charlie there, I have to say.

Wonder what Joe was saying that Kit’s smiling like that.

The shift from smiley to serious editorial face is so funny.

I like how IMDb says this guy was born in 1982. I'm guessing a different Daniel Millar.

r112 Looks like someone that Will knows from modeling.

Between the red flowing jacket and the patent leather pointy toed boots, Joes outfit is a pretty clear / well done Wiccan homage too. Smart

In case any of you were wondering if the truly insane have gotten over Joe liking tweets to support Bash - they have not. This person randomly popped up for me cropping Joe out of photos with Kit tonight

Kit wearing the men's version of the infamous thousand dollar prada white tank top. I take back my complaint of his unbuttoned shirt. I'd unbutton my shirt too

The unbuttoned top with the Prada undershirt made the outfit pop for me. Would have been too traditional a look otherwise.

A thread of the pictures in HQ and without watermarks. Just now noticed that Joe’s suit is longer on one side.

R117 yeah it’s an asymmetric Alexander McQueen look. Joe is so tiny he’s literally skinnier than the model. Looks great though

[quote]During a candlelit dinner by Heston Blumenthal, toasts were raised by Aitch, Alex Daddario, Will Poulter, Alex Scott, Alec Boateng, Little Simz, Paul Mescal and Charlie Cox to cover stars Jack Harlow, Sydney Sweeney, Leah Williamson, Stormzy, Kit Connor, Joe Locke and Andrew Garfield.

Wonder if they’ll include the toast(s) to Kit and Joe in the clips they post. It would be great if Mescal did Kit’s with how much Kit likes him.

I love the shorts on Sebastian-I thought he was wearing Thom Browne at first. Lee Pace usually goes for that look on red carpets.

R120 I really liked his look too

Not Bash having more pictures taken of him than the actual Men of the Year winners.

Cool video of Kit and Will.

Why did I type Will, I meant Joe. Let me go to sleep.

r123 Kit's always with Will so I don't blame you. Joe and Kit both look AMAZING in that video, they always look great in motion.

R123 they both look great. Joe has the best smile. Kit’s skin is incredible

The difference of engagement of this post versus the ones around it is so funny, it’s at 50k likes and the two around it have ~430 and ~6,600 likes. It’s gotten more likes than even the non-Joe and Kit cover reveals.

Someone flipped the mirrored floor part.

So sounds like they went from set to the event. This is the actor that plays Charlie‘s dad.

The video is on Twitter now.

Vote for Joe in Best Newcomer.

R131 Dependable Matt is there, demanding more Kit and Joe content.

Can relate to Matt here tho. There's more Bash content from the GQ event than content of Joe and Kit who are the the MOTY.

Yeah, after the very cute photos of Joe and Kit, I’m hoping we get at least some video content - particularly the speech and maybe the toasts.

Comments on Pop Crave are a mess but this one is taking me out. Imagine if something like this does end up happening.

R136 Jesus, bash and Joe deal well with the shippers generally I think but comments like that must be odd to see

These people made me think they only accept gay relationships when it fit their fictional fantasies cause that’s not a good thing to say about people in healthy relationship.

R136 I've noticed that a lot of people that are either casual Heartstopper fans or just know of Kit and Joe say stuff like this, which is a little strange but funny. Kit and Joe would make a hell of a power couple, but Joe is happy with Bash and that kind of thing would fuck up their little group so I pass.

R138 The phenomenon of shipping the actors that play love interests is a tale as old as time and isn't limited to gay actors so I don't think that's always the case. Some people just like the chemistry the actors have.

Funny cause I remember them made up stories trying to prove joe and bash are friends and bash’s straight. Gay and straight men can be friends they said.

He ditched the ear cuff at some point.

R141 he looks great. Bash is so whipped lmao

Kit and Joe are getting a ton of free shit as MOTY.

Does anyone know a good spot to upload videos? I found a tiny clip of Joe and Kit on stage.

Anyway while I try to figure it out, here’s an above view of Joe, Kit, and Bash.

R144 I’ve used streamable in the past after recommendations on here, seems good.

Hopefully this works, thanks r146!

Will and yaz are so quiet

[quote]Kit and Joe are getting a ton of free shit as MOTY.

What, no lube?

Thanks R147 - it did work! I really hope the whole speech was recorded. Kit’s fond look to Joe is very sweet.

Was that will yaz and bash in front of them? Guess from their hairstyles.

R151 Yes, Bash recording Joe and gatekeeping videos as usual

My hunch was right, Paul Mescal introduced them.

R153

Who posted that to ig stories?

Me thinks that Kit has a definite Paul Mescal crush. He has vague young Hugh Grant vibes.

Dream scene partners he said

R156 aren’t the two of them playing lovers in a film? Kit is about to have that on repeat.

R147 Bash is hilarious - there are going to be 1000 professional pics and likely videos of the speech as he well knows and yet he can’t stop himself from taking iPhone pics

r154 I just went through so many stories that I’m totally blanking, I’m so sorry. Speaking of, I never want to see or hear Jack Harlow again. 2,000 videos of that talentless hack rapping over a Fergie sample.

Just kidding! It’s in my search history. Here you go.

Between how Kit looks at Joe in R147 and how Joe looks at Kit in R153 it's hilarious that people still try to argue that they're not close or that they're only friends because of Bash or whatever. They wear their fondness for each other on their sleeves (or in their eyes, basically).

R160 Thankfully I don’t think many people do still argue that they aren’t close. Back when they did press earlier this year, I can semi understand why some people might have thought they didn’t get on ultra well - that was my very initial impression when I first watched a vaguely awkward interview of theirs - but the closeness is very obvious nowadays and the success of the show has clearly brought them much closer. It’s really nice to see.

R160 aside from a few very deluded people I think as 161 said people do think they’re very close and mutually fond. People still have a weird love for ranking the cast friendships and arguing over whether Kit is closer to Joe or Bash for some reason but there’s no real question they are very close

Many people don't say they arent friends but also some people still can't separate them from their characters. Or are obsessed with calling them best friends or soul mates. A little weirdness on both sides

I think calling them best friends or soulmates is relatively harmless (if a little deluded) - as long as it mostly stays away from thinking that they’re actually in love with each other then I’m happy with that. And compared to some fandoms, it does seem that people generally know not to do that. Probably partly because fans jump down your throat if you ship any of the cast.

Heartstopper fans from other platforms ship them openly only twitter that they can’t accept it cause fandom polices.

R164 eh I will say sometimes it steps very close to … when they make the comic comparisons. Like this one for example. I don’t think people have conspiracy theories they’re dating but it’s still a bit bizarre. Once again and unsurprisingly, Alice didn’t help by gushing nonstop about how Joe and Kit are Charlie and Nick brought to life

Portrait from the event, she looks like the only cast member that posed for one.

Just noticed that yaz changed her outfit here

R167, that’s a bit weird, why just her? I mean she looks amazing, but wonder why the others didn’t

“I thought I was young and cool but apparently I'm not anymore,” Mescal joked. “There's some new brilliant, brilliant actors on the block, and it's my huge honour to introduce these gentlemen. Joe and Kit were thrown into the limelight with Heartstopper, which we all fucking loved, right?” At which point the room erupted in whoops. “It's a huge honour for me to get to do this – you should be incredibly proud of what you've achieved and being the talented men that you are.”

Connor then stepped up to the mike first, reciprocating Mescal's kind words. “The fact that Paul has just introduced us is insane to me, literally over the last year I don't know how many times I watched Normal People, it changed my life. I was crying in my bedroom constantly.”

This is the most insane moment of my life,” Locke said. “This time two years ago I was sat in my bedroom in the Isle of Man thinking I was going to study law, and now I'm here."

He continued: “Heartstopper meant so much to us personally, and so much to a lot more people in the world than we thought it would, and it's been so great to have been a part of a show that's meant so much to people who felt they haven't seen themselves on screen. It's been the craziest year, and I can't think of anyone better to have shared it with than Kit.”

R171 that’s a really nice toast.

R170 the more I see Joe’s suit the more I love it. His stylist has been doing great recently

Has Paul stated his sexuality publicly? If not, is he gonna get the same queerbaiting nonsense that Kit got, playing this queer character alongside Andrew Scott?

R173 The blowback started as soon as he was cast, but I do think that the Kit situation has made a lot of people reevaluate their stance and he won't get as much grief as he did back then.

R173 every actor who plays queer gets it to an extent; I think Kit due to age was much more plugged into social media and more sensitive and wasn’t able to ignore it. No shame to him; it’s gross that people were being dicks about it given it’s none of their business and he’s 18, but a lot of straight or not out actors get shtick for it

The amount of likes and the quote tweets, whew.

An update on the most important member of HS

r176 Was that the ear Joe had the cuff on? It’s so red.

r177 I really try not to use abbreviations, but LMAO. Why would he need a whole photoshoot for?

Yaz looks great and I think is clearly a nice person from how much the cast likes her but I did have to laugh at her posting a photo of solely herself at an event to honour Joe and Kit

That's...that's weird as fuck. Is her ego really that overblown or is she just taking a minute to post them?

I don't think she went there for kit and Joe. Will didn't include her when speaking about who was going. Nothing personal but kids, but she'll promote herself and not anyone else.

Herself and Ncuti Gatwa, apparently.

Speaking of Ncuti, he posted himself with the cast on Instagram.

Maybe Will and Bash were the +1’s and Yaz got invited off her own back? Hence the non promotion of Kit and Joe

Joe looks fantastic. He’s finally learning how to pose

Bash and Maia are lucky fuckers

Yaz has so far posted herself alone or with Ncuti not the Heartstopper boys suggesting she was indeed officially with him, and Bash and Will were as always Joe and Kit’s plus one

R184 I mean, it's weird to not say anything no matter how she got there? The entire purpose of the event is to honor a group that two of her friends are among. One of them who she seems to be more close to than to the others (Joe) and another who took time off of shooting a movie to present her with an award a couple of months ago (Kit). Both who hype up every single one of her accomplishments.

R189 to be honest I think Yaz is just very about the self promotion more than purposefully slighting the others. Her Vogue article was good but did have some unintentionally funny moments - her announcing that her own role in Doctor Who was going to change the world, the writer trying to gently say she has a high self opinion and talks a lot about people praising her. The writer did also say he thought that was due to past experience - “She’s perhaps most visibly alive recalling praise. Rather than pure ego (although, justifiably, there is a little gloating) there’s a sense it provides an armour she had to go without as a vulnerable child.”

It would be nicer and more gracious for her to mention Joe and Kit but I get the sense she genuinely doesn’t even think to do it rather than trying to make a point

[quote] Bash and Maia are lucky fuckers

To be fair so are Joe and Kit, the four of them are stunning and the embodiment of young queer excellence. I look forward to watching their futures unfold

I mean it’s never going to happen, but would love to see the two couples for the HS premiere (assume there will be a proper one this next season)

Nice pic. Joe is so little, it would be hilarious to see him next to Thor or someone in marvel

I hope all of the MCU actors pick him up.

What an odd menu. I’m a pretty adventurous eater but these seem like pretty Epicurian things to serve to a load of people

R196, it’s Heston Blumenthal, they’re lucky they weren’t sprayed with seawater or something whilst eating it

Everything about that menu sounds awful. I'd probably eat the bread. Also too much of the worst cabbage.

As time passes, my hopes are dwindling for some official video footage from GQ awards... surely it would've been uploaded by now?

They should put it up eventually, they always have before, though I'm guessing there might not be anything special coming out with the two of them.

Hoping Joe changes his damn profile picture to the one GQ took of him. It’s so good

I don't get his obsession with his current pfp

R202 I think he just doesn’t care enough about social media to change it; his Twitter photos have been the same since forever too

New details about Agatha's storyline. Joe playing Wiccan still seems unreal at times.

R204 it’s seriously been an insane 2 years for him

I’m the son of two chefs and even I’m hurling at that menu.

The height difference, Joe in red and looking edgier with the earring, Kit's hair...I see the Wiccan and Hulkling vision.

Haven’t there been recent murmurings they might merge Skaar and Hulkling into the same character? If so would the Skaar actor from She Hulk (wil Deusner) play Joe’s love interest / Hulkling?

It wouldn’t make any sense to do that so I would ignore those murmurings outright and there was an audition call for a character that fits Hulkling way after She-Hulk was done shooting.

Joe and Kit last night, I think leaving the event? Not sure.

R210 how sweet, he recognizes his boyfriend’s stalker

Bash’s stalker’s girlfriend (mouthful) apologizing for not stalking Kit enough.

On what planet do these girls think not stalking someone makes them a bad fan.

[quote]Haven’t there been recent murmurings they might merge Skaar and Hulkling into the same character? If so would the Skaar actor from She Hulk (wil Deusner) play Joe’s love interest / Hulkling?

I have not seen a single person float this as a possibility. People would flip a shit if they changed Teddy to Skaar.

There are rumors of it. Saw it a few times. Everyone always gets pissed if it's mentioned though.

Parrot Analytics (a company that measures global demand in media that the trades reference a lot) released their finalists for this year’s Global Demand Awards and Kit is among them.

Most In-Demand Rising Star in the World, 2022

Millie Bobby Brown Michael Cimino Kit Connor Auli'I Cravalho Maya Hawke

Some more information on the awards:

[quote]The Global TV Demand Awards are the world’s first unbiased, data-driven TV awards event. The winning series are determined by audience demand around the world; there are no judges and no voting committees. Instead, winners are determined using Parrot Analytics’ global audience demand measurement system, a proprietary methodology that measures how much a TV series, movie or talent resonates with people in 200+ markets around the world, across all platforms.

R218 I’m actually more surprised by some of the others than by Kit. We know he was crazy on the IMDb meters this year and I’m sure the coming out boosted him; for s few days that discussion was everywhere. Maya hawke also checks out to me, she blew up this year. I’m surprised MBB is still in that’s category given she’s been really famous for about 7 years; wouldn’t have guessed many people were seeking out either Auli’i or Michael

Related to Yaz, Dr. Who is posting the companion reveal tonight and there was confusion on Twitter as fans thought Yaz was confirmed to play the companion (her Vogue article called her that, I think). One of the crew members from HS liked this tweet and while obviously he might know no more than the rest of us, it seems like something he might have some awareness of

For some reason I thought it was known from the get-go that she wasn’t the companion?

R221 I thought it was clear at first that she was meant to be in the specials alone, but then I think a combination of twitter’s inability to read and the Vogue article saying the below threw people off.

“And her next gig – that of Rose, the companion to The Doctor (to be played by Ncuti Gatwa, best known for his gloriously charismatic performance as gay student Eric in Netflix’s Sex Education) – is only going to heighten the hype around her.”

She will from a Whovian perspective be a companion even if it’s just a single episode so describing her as such is technically correct but my understanding from the start was she’s a companion for the specials only so they’ll be a different one ongoing But like other shorter term companions if it works well she could be back for a longer stint in a later series

If anyone has any questions…

R224 Wow, unusual time for a Q&A but can’t complain!

Lol Tobie. I’m already seeing silly questions like that - and also really specific ones about season 2 that of course they’re not gonna answer!

Does this mean we’re finally gonna get Bash and Tobie in a group interview? Excited for that.

Yaz was only ever in the specials. Anything special related had a blue diamond. Yaz posted a rose plus blue diamond as her announcement.

R224 some of the questions on that thread are something else

R229 My only hope is that they don’t choose questions that they’ve been asked in many interviews before.

Be awkward if they answered this one… thankfully very unlikely given how personal it is. And Joe would probably recognise the name…

They are very likely to stick to lighthearted and character related questions - most and least like their character, what they’re most excited for, how S2 set was different from S1, etc. if they’re asking the whole cast they’re not going to sit down for a one on one with Kit about his coming out or with Joe about his body dysmorphia or Yaz about transphobia, come on now

Almost 100 likes for that intrusive bad question

Of course there is also a coffee breath question

Also how do people not know Joe's coffee order. He's said it more than once

It’s a fun lighthearted interview, doesn’t matter if you get. 20,000 likes love, they’re not going to ask those sort of questions, quite rightly.

I do hope they ask a “most/least like their character” question so they can pointedly say Bash (and probably Cormac) are the least like their characters and have their back there a bit.

R236 She is the worst. Half tempted to reply and point out that Joe blocked her, just so Netflix see it if they consider choosing one of her questions…

R239 I would honestly bet Netflix has a pre written list of tame questions and they’re just going through fan tweets to pick out ones corresponding to topics they’ve already okayed. It’ll be stuff like “cats or dogs?” “Describe s2 in one word” “most like their character” “converse or vans”.

R241 Lollll amazing. That has to be someone on here. Either way, they're more likely to answer Maira's question than that one.

That's pretty cringe though.

Isn’t that the dog in HS? I can’t say I’ve studied the dog that closely, but I’m sure it’s a similar breed to this, does that mean she’s on set visiting?

That dog looks older to me than the dog they use for Nellie, it’s probably a friend’s dog.

Seems like she's in Spain, if her other pic is current

R244 I just went to the dog's Instagram page (lol) and compared photos and it doesn't seem so - there are subtle colour/pattern differences. Very similar though!

The dog has an instagram??

That’s an Australian shepherd I think. The dog in HS is a border collie

I guess filming is done very soon. Kit and Maia Paris dates coming soon.

R248 Indeed! She's a cutie.

My guess is they wrap next week hence having the time to do the all cast interviews.

Do we reckon it'll be one big group of them for the Netflix interview next week? That might be a bit chaotic with the amount of them. Or split them into smaller groups for separate interviews?

Are we fiiiiinally gonna get to see a tiny bit of Joe/Bash interaction? Or are they gonna sit at opposite ends of the room and pretend to be acquaintances?

They’ll probably put the main 3 couples in a group and then everyone else in a second group

Filming most likely wraps up next week, and then at least four of them will be jetting off to Los Angeles during the second week of December. Joe may have to head over to Atlanta for prep stuff for Agatha as well. I also imagine we'll start hearing about other projects for the rest of the cast pretty soon.

(Not to be negative, but I don't see Kit and Maia lasting very long if they're ever together for an extended period of time. She's a club kid that parties every day and he's an introverted homebody.)

One of the makeup artists posted that she’ll be available to work after Dec 2, so I would guess that’s the last day.

R257 good catch. If that’s the case then Jesus, Joe will have basically zero downtime before getting started on Agatha. I originally thought even though he’s the male lead he might not show up for a while but the new leaks make it sound like he’s quite pivotal to the plot

R258

I’m excited for Joe to be completely honest. I can’t wait to see who the other person that could be playing teddy will be announced.

On the comics Teddy is MIA for a while. After Billy joins up with the other Young Avengers, they learn about a kid with powers stuck in juvie and break him out. It turns out to be Teddy. My guess is his character will be introduced in a movie, not this show. But they could always change the story and not follow the comics.

Joe made a proper Instagram post! GQ MOTY event, cute that he posted the hug with Kit.

R260

Ok, i did not know that. Thank you for explaining. I hope they change the storyline but if not I can wait. Based on the casting call, I can’t wait to see sarcastic/dark humor joe

Really cute that he posted the hug, and also that we got a semi-personal selfie for once. Also, if he's taking the photo, whose hands are those? Or is it Kit taking it?

Looks like someone sorting his hair, so likely his hair stylist

I think it’s Petra Sellge fixing his hair.

Will we get a post from Kit too? I've seen quite a few official ish posts from people that have attended so it may be that they're semi-required to post something.

I’m hoping he does, the people that attended were sent pictures of themselves that weren’t published so it would be nice if he posted one we haven’t seen yet.

You can now reply to Joe's stories on Instagram, he must've changed it.

Random, but I’m listening to a podcast that Chris Colfer is on right now and he brought up Kit’s coming out, said that basically the same thing happened to him back then with Glee and that he wanted to tweet support to Kit but didn’t want to be the old guy trying to get attention. Talks about how there’s still a lot of homophobia in the industry but says that all of the support Kit got shows how far the community has come.

R270 Aww, that's really nice. What is the podcast?

This reel has quite a few party and red carpets clips but it’s pretty quick and I couldn’t spot the cast (apart from a clip of Yaz on the red carpet). Someone else here might be more eagle eyed than me.

R271 And That’s What You REALLY Missed, it’s a Glee podcast but this particular episode is, IMO, worth listening to because of how Chris (and Kevin) talk about their experiences as gay actors. Some of the things they talk about…Chris mentions at one point that casting people would call him a faggot to his face when he was auditioning for parts.

I saw that person’s tweets the other day, they were insistently asking for proof that Joe is actually gay because they want to date him…while denying the proof presented to him. Joe’s made it, he has mentally unstable fans that want to date him now.

Ugh, just looking at his profile and the other tweets are even worse. He's tweeting Bash and Edvin from YR too.

Wouldn’t be surprised if they’re having one of their “come dine with me” nighrs or some other hangout - kit and bash normally like joes stuff within .2 seconds and they plus will and Yaz haven’t. Presuming Will, Yaz, Joe and Kit are the last to wrap and wherever Joe is, bash is.

R276 he’s casting a wide net at least lmao

R277 Good point actually - Friday night is a good night for it. Either that or they’re still filming.

Full GQ speech. Kit seems terrified, Joe doesn’t really show his nerves.

R279 good find; I think a bit is still cut out as we don’t hear the “can’t think of anyone I’d want to go through this with more than Kit” (paraphrasing) or Kit freaking out over Paul Mescal. But this is cute. Joe is a really natural speaker

R279 Nice find! Shame it doesn’t include the hug though.

Poor Kit does seem absolutely terrified - that’s the most nervous I’ve seen him. And yet he’s very articulate and speaks really well in interviews etc. But I totally understand the clamming up when public speaking thing.

Thought Kit was going to be a lot shakier than he was based on the comments here. They both seem nervous and look at each other quite a bit for reassurance but also came off really charming.

R246 Looks like she's still in Argentina.

Can anyone catch what Kit is saying right before Andrew Garfield? “So many people who I’m just like…”????

R284 Yeah, saw her at a concert there. Though the pic she posted earlier (no longer on her IG stories) was 100% in Barcelona near Passeig de Gràcia. Suppose an old picture.

r285 “…fuck, so many people who I’m just like, ‘How am I in the same room as you?,” Andrew Garfield…”

Paul Mescal's sister commented on Joe's Instagram with her congratulations. It looks like she followed Joe, Kit, Will, and Kizzy a while back.

r285 here, I just listened to it again and I think he actually says “fucking so many people who I’m…”

Also, love that Kit’s doing his go-to dad stance during his speech.

Joe seeing and posting that picture GQ took of him and keeping his Soho House profile picture instead is my villain origin story. Bash, if you really love him make him change it.

R292 I love Joe’s profile picture. He’s had a few really good photo shoots, and the soho house one was definitely one of them. I also like a lot of his recent GQ pictures, but if Joe likes the pictures in the pool, he should keep it. It’s a great picture.

My villain origin story is that he didn’t post anything from the Attitude Awards. He put up a few stories, but not a permanent post. I loved his outfit at Attitude.

Still amazed by his smooth chest at the Attitude Awards. He should have memorialized it with an IG post

R289 I don’t hear him say fuck at all - it sounds like ‘we’re sitting in a room full of people who we admire… like… so many people who I’m just like, how am I in the same room as you? Andrew Garfield…’

I’m not sure what he shakily says after Andrew Garfield though, when everyone laughs?

I put my airpods in and I still hear fuck (and I think that’s why people started chuckling at that point). The bit after Garfield’s name sounds like “well, okay,” I think. Would be easier for all of us if GQ just posted the speeches.

R295 The fuck is between the "like" and the "so" when he's speaking.

I hear like an ‘f’ or ‘th’, but I think he just started to say a word/maybe name a celebrity but then changed.

This interviewer is ridiculous but I kinda like her - shame we didn’t get to see a Joe/Kit interview with her cos that would’ve been funny. Also, Will Poulter seems like the nicest guy in the world.

Joe and Kit should go on a Chicken Shop Date to make up for missing the carpet.

Did someone say that GQ have uploaded speeches in previous years? Doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen, sadly. At least we have most of it above.

Bradley Riches gave an interview to Metro, this is nice:

[quote]’When I first arrived, I was a bit nervous, because they all knew each other really well. But everyone was so welcoming. Kit let me in with open arms. It’s such a fun set. We chat about the most random stuff when we’re not filming and always have a laugh. Going to Paris with all of them was an amazing memory especially, I’ll never forget that.’

R302 That’s sweet - funny/interesting that he specifically mentioned Kit.

R302 that’s cute. The kit mention is funny given the joke theory that Bash and Joe had some issue with Bradley (I think clearly not the case given he hypes Joe a lot too, just funny)

I can't say I'm surprised about Kit being mentioned specifically. It feels like a lot of the cast describes him as the seasoned pro that makes everyone feel welcome. With what we tend to hear about Kit, it makes sense that Nathaniel Curtis described Kit as "one of the loveliest, most gentle men" he knows when Kit came out.

R305 Yeah, agreed - he's talked quite a lot about how he feels it's really important to be kind in general but especially on set, so other people have a good working experience with you. And I get the impression that he feels quite at home on sets at this point.

R305 It’s amusing to me that he’s the one that fell into that role when he’s the baby of the cast (apart from Cormac?).

Joe is so much shorter than the other men in the cast. The only one without a growth spurt

He can’t afford to grow too much, he’d lose his primary mode of transportation.

Would someone mind linking to the Attitude speech, but the non-cropped high quality version? I’ve tried to find it but only seem to come across the zoomed in version.

R308 They’re on the IOM (see bash’s thread)

R312 Thanks! For some reason I was convinced it was on Twitter which is why I couldn’t find it.

Time for some thirst traps again. Caption cracked me up though

He looks hot (obviously) but this kind of thing just makes me want him as Hulkling even more.

Not sure that Pink News would know more than the rest of us but throwing this in here just in case.

I think Kit deleted his Twitter account entirely, it’s not coming up anymore.

He did. Curious as to why he's doing that at 1am in the morning. Kit stop searching on your phone in bed.

R318 good for him if so. I’d guess his PR would want him to keep it but he might pull a Joe and use temporary deactivation to delete and unlike a bunch of tweets

Seems like nobody noticed yet since they are just talking about his selfie.

I was about to say the same I was looking through the searches and his twitter handle looks like it’s been deleted completely.

Good decision

Would be funny if he dropped the thirst trap to distract everyone while he deleted his account.

Kit Connor queerbaiting is the top tag when you search his name. And it's Joe Locke feio (Portuguese for ugly) . Can't imagine why they hate twitter and hstwt in general! A mystery.

The Brazilians are, bar none, the worst offenders when it comes to being awful about Joe so I’m not shocked about that.

I think all three of them (Bash, Joe, and Kit) are distancing themselves from Twitter in varying levels. Joe will hop on solely to promote a project; he didn’t even post GQ MOTY or the event on there so seems very intermittent and I wouldn’t be shocked if he just gave it to his PR. Kit deleting altogether makes sense as it seems to be a major pressure point for him, and I wouldn’t be surprised if continuing to get responses to his coming out tweet (even supportive ones) wasn’t exactly reliving a fun memory.

Pink News deleted the wrap tweet so seems like they accidentally leaked that

I really hope he hadn’t ventured back onto Twitter and name searched again, leading to him deleting his account. Definitely a good decision, anyway.

R327 Hmmm, would they be privy to that kind of info though? It’s certainly close to wrapping, anyway - maybe they assumed based on a few minor actors saying they’ve wrapped.

R327 they originally replied saying they said it because Charlie’s dad had wrapped but I agree they posted it before they were meant to

R315 Looking good! Although the way he’s leaning on the equipment definitely makes him look a bit bulkier than he is 😂

Also wow, that’s a high ceilinged gym.

I can still see Kit’s Twitter account but it says tweets aren’t loading. So guessing deactivated rather than deleted?

R329 my guess is they probably told a few publications (attitude, pink news, gay times) so they could promo it along with Netflix’s video next week which is prob an end of filming announcement and q and a. PinkNews just jumped the gun; deleting all their tweets is too odd if they just misworded it plus timing makes sense with Joe and bash heading to IOM.

I get This account doesn’t exist. And all accounts are deactivated first. You can't just flat out delete I don't think

I think the timing of the IOM trip is irrelevant if they have to be back in London or Maidenhead or wherever in a matter of days regardless. They're only going to have wound up being there for a handful of days.

Great decision RE: Kit deactivating, PopCrave posted about him and he’s getting called a queerbaiter and other awful shit again.

HS fandom coming to the conclusion gym selfie and deactivating his twitter acct means he'll be announced at Hulking soon. Not sure how they connected those dots, but who knows

Gotta love a good thirst trap. Keep them coming, Kit, you look great! And, maybe convince Bash to post some too lol

The bathtub pics were a little thirst trappy. Professional thirst trap. I do feel Bash is working out some, so post some pics Bash. He looks bigger than he used to be, his arms espeically.

R337 I get why fans would try to manifest Kit as Hulkling between the gym selfie and the deactivation. You could surmise that he may be bulking up more for a part (the Marvel diet) and may have decided to delete his Twitter preemptively before an announcement to avoid hate. I'll believe anything is possible after this place manifested Joe as Wiccan based on a casting notice and a single picture of Joe in Los Angeles.

Doesn't make any sense since Joe had to come back to twitter for the Marvel news.

Joe didn't have to come back to Twitter for Marvel. Marvel doesn't require their actors to have any social media presence and a good chunk of them don't. He was already on that day because of Kit coming out and disappeared right after again.

He knew the news was coming out. Was not a surprised to him and actually used twitter for the first time in awhile because of it. Probably wasn't required to do it, but still did. Anyway, stranger shit has happened but I find it hard to believe he deleted twitter because of MCU news

No opinion on if kit is hulkling, but doubt they’d announce it rn. They’re doing the most to avoid confirming Joe is Wiccan; announcing his blondeish bulked up teen costar who he’s already been in a romantic role with as also in the show would make that all very explicit in a way I doubt marvel likes right now. If someone reputable leaked that kit signed with marvel or it was a guess based on his follows Id be more inclined to believe it

I don’t think Kit’s gym selfie is any sort of confirmation that he’s bulking up - we already know he goes to the gym regularly anyway cos it’s good for his mental health. He probably just liked how hench he looked in that position, haha. Shame it wasn’t a post so we could see all the funny comments from the other cast.

Fans on Twitter are pressing Buzzfeed for a Kit and Joe puppy interview.

R346 Would definitely like to see that! Although silly fans on Twitter are already taking it as confirmation when it clearly isn’t.

Pink News tweeted this follow up. Still wonder if they might be wrapped; seems like very coincidental timing with Joe’s trip home otherwise but who knows.

also unrelated, but I’m wondering now if Kit’s project might be young Hercules? The live action was announced and being cast; we know he can carry a tune if they make it musical; and Disney loves British accents.

R346 that’s interesting to me because they’d have to be interviewed in the States for that. Buzzfeed UK has said that I guess animal shelter laws or policies in the UK don’t allow them to do the videos and they’re an American Buzzfeed thing; maybe they’re hoping to nab them for an interview while they’re over in California for the Emmys.

R348 An interesting thought with Hercules! That would be very cool, although he doesn't seem to think he's a very good singer so might not put himself up for anymore big singing roles.

Hercules isn't anywhere near the casting stage, Guy Ritchie is still working on the screenplay.

R349 All of the American press they did for the first season was via Zoom. Hopefully with the two-season renewal Netflix invests a little more and sets them up for in-person promo in the U.S., especially since they've been nominated for American awards at this point.

Affectionately, they’re so dumb.

R353 I would genuinely love to see the Joe, Kit, Bash, and Will dynamic because the four of them obviously enjoy hanging out together but each individual friendship / relationship within it has such a specific dynamic

Do people seriously talk like this in real life? I hope to god not and that they’re just like this on Twitter.

Not going to lie, it annoys me that people are still putting words in Kit’s mouth. He’s never said anything at all about people sexualizing him. He’s also not a moron so he knows this would be part of the outcome of him posting.

It seems like this generation do.

He literally posted a thirst trap. I know he’s only 18 but I’m really not sure he’s the innocent delicate flower these girls think he is. And maliciousness or being a creep and expressing someone’s attractiveness after they post a picture like that are two completely different things.

I mean in another sense he is an 18 year old boy and maybe they just don’t have an understanding of the implications of that

Honestly if anything it would probably bruise my ego more to post a thirst trap and have people say nothing. I’ve seen a few tweets basically saying “come on guys we don’t have these issues with people sexualising Joe”… yes, I think part of what makes Joe feel bad about his appearance is people blatantly calling him ugly or thinking his costar is hotter. That’s not some advantage he has over kit

We already knew because of the Paris set pictures, but further confirmation that the hickey storyline is happening:

[quote]Interacting with her teenage fanbase can be useful, however, especially when it comes to keeping her characters’ language realistic. “In Volume Three of the comics, there’s a whole storyline about Charlie having a love bite. And when I was writing the scripts for season two [of Heartstopper], I suddenly thought, do teens still use the phrase ‘love bite’? Apparently they don’t,” she discovered after checking with some of her fans, so the phrase had to be swapped out for “hickey”, their current word of choice.

R354 Agreed - I'm particularly interested in the Will/Kit dynamic because they're close but we don't often get to see them properly interact. And of course, Joe and Bash's dynamic, but we'll likely never see the full extent of that unless they somehow announce their relationship.

R359 It's funny that she's done that research but still doesn't seem to know that you don't get a hickey from someone just kissing your neck a few times.

R361 hopefully the intimacy coordinator could tell her that, though the image of teenage Kit and Joe having to awkwardly explain that to her instead is truly funny

What has happened to teenagers?! Are they all this offended by sex these days? Or does HS just attract a bizarre group of them?! When I was 16-18, sex was the big topic. Who you fancied, what base you got too at house parties, who was sleeping with who. Which pop star you fancied and though was hot. I had posters of shirtless popstars all over my walls. That photo of Kit, we’d have all been drooling over.

Now it’s all ‘don’t sexualise this previous 18 year old’ - WTF?!

R363 I'd imagine that Heartstopper attracts a lot of quite sexually inexperienced people, based on how wholesome and innocent it is - I suspect a lot of them (the teenagers at least) haven't had sex themselves and so it seems like this big taboo thing. But the whole 'don't sexualise Kit' thing - the guy who posted a photo of himself flexing to millions of people - is annoying and unrealistic. Sure, don't tweet him saying you'd like to fuck his brains out, but he's eighteen and not stupid. He knew there'd be some people very 'enraptured' by the photo.

I honestly don’t know what it is but being sexual puritans does seem more common in the younger generation, and with the Heartstopper fans they don’t seem to ever talk about sex which for supposedly hormonal teens seems just bizarre.

They definitely treat mention of sex or explicitly sexual attraction as something inherently sick or abusive instead of completely natural. They police among themselves not making sexual comments instead indulging in the most unbearable cutesy language about the cast effectively being a group of cuddly asexual teddy bears. I noticed some talk today about how offensive it was that one of the gift bags Joe and Kit got (from GQ or Attitude?) contained a sex toy.

There’s a real double standard where saying you are attracted to someone or find someone sexy is considered completely unacceptable, invasive and insulting but their own continued complete lack of boundaries and attempts to control and bully cast members is some kind of morally righteous crusade.

I hope it’s not typical across the whole generation because it really doesn’t seem psychologically healthy. Either they are all genuinely 12 year olds pretending to be young adults or it’s attracted an unusual and very puritan online fan base

R365 this younger generation does tend to be less sexually active than previous generations, primarily because teens spend so much more time talking to their friends online and less time with friends in person. Statistics like teen pregnancy are way down. I would imagine teens that spend most of their time on fan twitter are even less likely to have real life partners, and the PG nature of HS in general makes this fan base even more inexperienced. These teens self project onto the cast a lot. They personally would be very uncomfortable with strangers talking about them in a sexual way. So they hide their faces behind pictures of their favorite celebrities and imagine those celebrities are equally uncomfortable. Hopefully they’ll grow out of it and realize how naive they were in time. In the meantime, I find these crazy teens reaction to obvious thirst traps oddly entertaining.

R366 what a year he has had, must be insane to try and get your head around it all

Between the bash hate and this bullshit today - I hope Bash and Joe never look back after HS season 3, honestly. I really feel awful for kit re the coming out / queerbaiting stuff but otherwise these two are truly treated so much worse than the rest of the cast it’s insane.

^the latter half of the above thread in r369

That denial isn’t going to serve them well at all.

R371 oh I don’t think they’re in denial, I think they want an excuse to call him anti semitic. Honestly pretty insane how much effort it must take for them to find things to cancel bash and Joe. They see two very politically liberal gay teen boys, both of whom are adored and spoken highly of by literally everyone who has ever met them, one of whom is the middle class son of a single mum who helped change a homophobic law before his 19th birthday, has been open about struggling severely with online bullying, and is the most political member of the cast and the other of whom is the son of a refugee, also very open about homophobic bullying and a learning difficulty, and raised over 150K for queer charities - and they’ve found about 15 ways to tear them down. Fairly wild

R372

Yeah, the fans are never going to be happy with them. They will always try and cancel them for some ridiculous reason. At this point they shouldn’t say/or apologize for anything because they will never be happy

I'm honestly so glad that Joe bagged Marvel. This way he can gain a new subset of fans who won't be as annoying as these entitled fucks that are Heartstopper fans. They can continue sucking up to the only cast that they only like that's Kit.

I have to admit that I don't get the point of Bash ever having followed Trump given that the media obsessively updated everyone on whatever he said or did anyway, but I don't understand the obsession with monitoring who the cast follows and making judgment calls based on that. They've already browbeaten Kit into making a statement over someone he followed so I wouldn't be surprised if they get to Bash as well. Regardless, just like it never crossed my mind that Kit is a misogynist, I don't think Bash is a Tory.

[quote]This way he can gain a new subset of fans who won't be as annoying as these entitled fucks that are Heartstopper fans.

The Marvel fans are worse than the Heartstopper fans. Blend the entitlement of the Heartstopper fans with a heavy dose of sexism and homophobia. The ones that aren't homophobic are holier-than-thou and don't want Joe playing a Jewish character. The Marvel fans are also the ones that are calling him ugly now.

[quote]They can continue sucking up to the only cast that they only like that's Kit.

They did this same thing to Kit to the point that he publicly apologized.

R375 honestly, he was low key entertaining. I know he’s awful and terrible but as a gay man who is the son of undocumented immigrants myself at a certain point you laugh or infuriate yourself. He probably followed him to laugh at the inane dumb shit he said; covfefe etc.

R374 agreed and honestly I think Joe is a lot closer to just being blatant abt how little he gives a fuck about the fans’ opinion. His likes in defense of bash just pre marvel show that; I know he Unliked them but I think that was more a matter of timing than regretting he did that. Can’t wait for them both to be done with this fanbase of teenage hysterics

R377

I will be giggling the day that Joe tells the “fans” to fuck off for good. Its obvious most of them are there for Kit only anyways. He will have enough to deal with the Marvel fans as it is

There’s a photo of Will on his band’s insta story and he’s looking at a script… assuming Heartstopper. I wonder how long it’ll be till a fan deciphers it haha. I looked but it’s just a bit too blurred to read anything.

Grown ass adult encouraging this behavior by telling people to think of the cast as their closest friends. This is why we can’t have nice things.

R380 she’s 31? Jesus Christ. Something severely stunted about all that

They aren't your closest friends. What weird ass behavior. And Corinna and Kit shouldn't have been called out for that either. The Corinna thing was especially dumb.

This all looks like an ever-so-slightly more upscale version of the GayVN awards ...

Also that 31 yo is 100% a JoeKit shipper

JFC annoying as it is you can at least understand in teen girls their brains aren’t even fully wired yet and there’s hope they grow out of it one day but 31? That lady really needs some help

Stating the obvious, but the reach/engagement on Kit's coming out tweet is insane. Joe Lycett's latest David Beckham video on Twitter (which is great) has 2.7M views already, but 160K likes. Not even close to Kit's 1 million plus likes. And Joe has more followers than Kit.

R380 Weirdly, she's an actress.

R387 people on Twitter have delusions of grandeur. Maybe i am wrong and she is a legitimate actress but she seems deluded enough that she might just consider being an extra or submitting self tapes enough to qualify her

They should get together with the Bash fans that hate Joe for no reason, especially the one on here that goes around calling him JoeJoe. Weirdo behavior on all of their ends.

Lee Pace commented on the show and the situation with Kit:

[quote][bold]That was the same moment in your career where you came out. It was a New York Times profile, which is a huge moment for any actor. Do you feel like you’ve reached a point where managing your public persona feels more comfortable?[/bold] I never really thought I was in. I never felt like that was a choice I made. But the media has a way of talking about things. I feel strongly, and did then as I do now, that I reserve my right to contain multitudes, and I would wish the same for all other actors. I reserve my right to explore all the different facets of humanity through my work and in my life. Have you seen the show Heartstopper?

[quote][bold]I have. It’s so beautiful.[/bold] Isn’t it beautiful?

[quote][bold]It’s lovely.[/bold] It’s so, so good. And one of the actors faced a similar Tower of Babel about the whole thing. It’s absurd. I look at him, and he’s so great in the show, and all I think is, [italic]I want to see what else you do. I want to see all of the people you inhabit in your career.[/italic] I actually don’t care about anything else. I don’t want to know it; it’s none of my business anyway. I’d rather take your word for it than some kind of hot take on it, you know? He’ll choose to reveal himself in the work he does, in the way he interprets characters, in the way he chooses the characters he wants to play.

R391 that’s a really nice way to talk about it; empathetic and supportive without making it a huge thing.

[quote]I look at him, and he’s so great in the show, and all I think is, [italic]I want to see what else you do. I want to see all of the people you inhabit in your career.[/italic]

It has to be really flattering for Kit to hear that kind of feedback from other actors.

Maia’s doing some kind of Twitch livestream at the mo - link on her story. All in Spanish so I can’t follow it, but I’m already seeing ‘Kit’ in the comments…

New Kit and Joe interview in THR’s Awards Special Issue. A couple of excerpts, link is the full thing:

The two of you clearly have a playful dynamic onscreen and off. How much work did that take?

CONNOR It’s one of those things where we were very much thrown into the deep end when we made it. We had two weeks of rehearsal. And then suddenly we started shooting. But we were quite lucky in that we tried to film it in chronological order, which was perfect.

LOCKE Chemistry is something you can’t fake. You can’t craft that — you can’t learn chemistry. It’s just there or it isn’t. I think that’s what has happened. Which is why I think it was so great they chose to film season one in sequence. That meant the awkward “hi’s” at the start of the series were equally as awkward between Kit and me as between Charlie and Nick. And as the season went on, our relationship grew.

That speaks to the earnestness that’s central to the show, which seems to also be teaching queer audiences, in particular, a lot about themselves. What have Nick and Charlie taught you through this entire process?

CONNOR Making Heartstopper was an extraordinarily important thing for me, in terms of my life and my identity. Being surrounded by strong, confident queer people — I can’t tell you how empowering it is.

LOCKE I think I always knew who I was. But Heartstopper told me to be proud of who I was and to not care as much [what people think]. I used to care a lot about what people and the world thought of me as a person, who I was, and how I lived my life. But having Heartstopper has just taught me not to care so much. To just be unapologetically who I am. I don’t think I would know who I am if I hadn’t gone through Heartstopper. I will always be grateful for that.

[quote]CONNOR Making Heartstopper was an extraordinarily important thing for me, in terms of my life and my identity. Being surrounded by strong, confident queer people — I can’t tell you how empowering it is.

[quote](Connor, after this interview, publicly came out as bisexual on Oct. 31.)

It will never not piss me off that Kit was becoming more and more open and the mob online was still completely fucking clueless and did what it did to him.

It’s interesting that all these interviews conducted before Kit’s coming out tweet (this and GQ) have him explicitly calling himself queer or part of the community. Not downplaying the tweet or his frustration and upset at all, but I’m glad that he didn’t feel forced “fully” out by it, if that makes any sense. Still absurd and frustrating re the wueerbaiting accusations but it seems like he had come to feel comfortable explicitly labeling himself queer anyway.

He and Joe are both very very strong and eloquent interviewers for their age.

I agree, it's on some level reassuring. If he was okay with being more transparent to the press then he was probably already out to everyone that matters to him. It's a bit of consolation.

R398 yeah agreed. It’s not “oh it’s fine that happened because clearly he was coming out”, the whole situation was still fucked ip and absurd. But I’m glad that at the very least he did and does seem comfortable and secure in his sexuality and seemed to be using his increased confidence around it to explicitly include himself in the community

here's the full article if you don't want to pay for it. tweet has some more screenshots.

Enjoy Joe not caring what people think anymore. Good for him. Also think Kit was slowly coming out more. I actually think it makes it a bit better in a way since it was something he was considering. Not that how it happen would ever be okay.

I agree with everyone. It’s nice to know Kit was on his way out before the twitter shitstorm happened. Not that it makes that situation any better.

It does sound like HS was an important part of Kit becoming comfortable with his sexuality. I wonder how out he was to family and friend before he started HS.

Joe basically confirming Bash made the first move there, ha. It’s interesting to see how their self descriptions have changed over time. Kit’s increased comfort in calling himself queer is the obvious one, but Joe’s really interests me too. No reason to doubt Joe that he’s more confidently himself, and I’m glad he is, but I remember pre show he called himself an extrovert / much more extroverted Charlie and has now switched to saying he’s an introvert and that’s something he relates to in charlie. I guess to be fair growing up around the same people your whole life and enjoying their company feels quite distinct from meeting strangers all the time. He’s really lovely with fans, as are they all, but comes across much shyer with them than Bash or Kit for instance.

R402 He did. I found it funny, but I think everyone already knew there was zero chance Joe made the first move. I'm not one of people who My Fair Lady Joe, but just can't imagine him as a 17 year old from IOM making a move on someone like Bash and so quickly either, since they took zero time from meeting to being joined at the hip.

The introverted thing is interesting, but what you said makes sense. He might have felt extroverted growing up, but out in the bigger world he realizes he's not.

R403 honestly what convinced me even prior to all this that it was Bash isn’t even the IOM to city thing, though it’s valid, as is the thought he’d want to be “professional” on his first job. It’s how fucking strong Bash’s type is. Bash is super hot and clearly Joe is very attracted to him but Bash might well have cum on the spot when Joe, a pale skinny twink with curly dark hair and great bone structure, walked into the room. He’s still a total simp for him to this day

Part of Paul presenting Kit and Joe with MOTY, insane that their cover was the most interacted with in its 33 year history.

Kit was so happy to meet Paul Mescal, bless. Joe is so insanely eyecatching on video

Kit with a fan tonight. No idea what the fuck the filter she's put on is

R408

Yeah the filter ruins it. It makes Kit look puffy

Hahaha that filter is horrific - it's almost made him look vaguely Asian (which is obv not horrific in itself lol). Assuming it was out and about in London somewhere?

The fan seems to live in London, so most likely.

Yeah, he’s around where he lives.

Eek, someone tweeting the specific area of Croydon that he lives in - I don't think Purley is very big. I've heard it's a very affluent area though.

Looks like Five Guys just purely by the colour scheme, plus we know he loves a five guys

Nick hair and looks a bit tired, I would guess he was working earlier.

The fan that added the filter is getting skull-dragged on Twitter. She's deleted the picture and everything. Surely she could have picked one that didn't make them look like burn victims?

That's sad but funny . Don't make Kit look bad or face fangirl wrath.

[quote]No idea what the fuck the filter she's put on is

Apparently it's the one that makes your glasses crooked.

There’s a five guys near to where that second fan pic was taken so I bet r414 is correct. I wonder what his go-to order is?

Nobody making lewd comments about kit enjoying five guys.... this thread is mature

I thought it would have been too obvious but I laughed anyway.

The fan deleting reminded me, it's nuts that at least two fans met Joe and Kit when they were together for the GQ profile and we never heard about it or got any pictures.

Someone here had posted about Maia streaming on Twitch earlier and here's probably the most relevant Kit part. Maia was asked if she's in a relationship and gave another answer that sounds like she's casual and open with Kit. She doesn't directly answer, instead she says that she's very happy, the hosts asks if she's in a situationship, and then Maia sort of clarifies it by saying that she has a complex reality in terms of where/when/how, the host mentions that she travels a lot, Maia agrees and says that she finds ways to be happy and the hosts teases her that she finds ways to be happy in different places. Maia downplays it but makes a "yeah, basically" face. Here's the clip.

I figured it was casual when that clip of her kissing a girl during the Cuban Girl’s wrap party went around.

R426 they met in what? July? So, max they could have been together is 4 months and have spent a good portion of those apart if you go by her travelling photos, add in time differences too can't exactly be an easy relationship, so a casual one makes sense

At least she's honest. I saw some comments about how they can't imagine Kit in an open relationship like people know him.

Just get the feeling she's not too into heteronormative relationships. Wouldn't expect anything too serious or dramatic with those two. They might hook up when they are close to each other, but for now seems like they both do their own thing. I doubt there will be any hard feelings either. So promotion for their movie shouldn't really be a problem.

I haven’t seen those comments but they don’t surprise me and I imagine they’re primarily coming from women looking at it from a heteronormative lens. I’m guessing they think Kit comes off as a dog for being in an open relationship. I think it’s great that it looks like they’re in a relationship where they seem to be transparent and communicative about what they are and where they stand, but YMMV.

I’ve also said this on here before but I like that, along with Joe and Bash, they’re a little group of queer up-and-coming actors that are supportive of each other. I genuinely find it charming when Maia comments on Joe and Bash’s stuff hyping them up and reposts them on her stories. Kizzy seems fond of her, too.

R426 Thanks for the translation! It did seem like an odd arrangement if it was any sort of monogamous, serious thing, what with them hardly ever being together. And I know that I don’t actually know either of them but as someone on here said, they seem to live such different lifestyles - Kit’s much more of an introverted homebody. He’s spotted out and about far less than Joe and Bash and is usually on his own.

Do we reckon Kit’s ever had any kind of experience with a guy?

R431 I wouldn’t be surprised if he has had an experience or two with a guy and that’s part of why he was becoming more and more vocal about his sexuality in interviews.

I'm assuming Kit's out with non-famous friends at time that nobody knows/cares about. Though he does seem a lot more low key than her. But with Kit's a bit difficult to say how he really is. He's really kept his private life/personality pretty private. It's why I think fans can't stop thinking he's Nick Nelson for real since he doesn't give much away.

R433 Yeah that’s true, he is quite hard to work out! All we can really say for sure is that he’s quite introverted but has a dry sense of humour, he’s gentle and kind, and he sometimes semi-hides insecurities under acting ‘cool’ and nonchalant. He gave almost nothing away at all in the vlogs.

As we’re gossiping I always had a suspicion there was a boyfriend at some point and maybe that report from Pride was just simple truth.

For what it’s worth I never believed he was with Sof either I just can’t imagine with all the advisors and counsellors around them they would have let him outright lie it made no sense. If he got caught lying about a relationship with a girl he’d have been toast, he just did no comment with Maia. I always suspected there was a boyfriend in the background almost certainly still at school as well and that was another reason he was so protective of his privacy.

The fallout with Sof still tracks she would happily be a bff if he was dating a boy but Maia? I can’t see that going down well. We’ve all known girls like that.

Just my theory

I kind of have a theory on that as well. With the way everyone in Kit's circle (famous and non-famous) unfollowed her, with Bash unfollowing her [italic]on her birthday[/italic], and with her following modeling agencies, I've theorized that it was less a break-up and more that Kit figured out that she was chasing a bit of clout via the attention he was getting. None of his other friends were posting pictures of themselves with Kit and other cast members or tagging all of their TikToks with his name and with the name of the show. His circle (apart from Sof) was and is very, very low-key and I think that's by design.

I also agree with you about the unlikelihood of outright lying about his relationship with Sof. They both stuck to the friends thing from beginning to end really solidly.

The other thing is, they were never spotted together romantically. Kit was caught holding hands with Maia really quickly and he didn't shy away from it even at Disney, where he knew he was around fans that recognized him. And you're telling me no one [italic]ever[/italic] spotted him with Sof being even remotely amorous in Croydon? Or when they went to Paris and were stalked to their hotel?

R436 Hmm interesting - I’m on the fence with the Sof thing. I didn’t think they were dating at all earlier on (when everyone else on here was convinced they were) but it was only when the whole unfollowing thing happened - which just so happened to be close to the time that he met Maia - that I wondered if it might’ve been a relationship. He doesn’t seem to have many/any other female friends from before HS that we’ve come across? I agree that they may well have cut ties because of her chasing attention, but I half think they were together. Didn’t she post some stuff vaguely hinting that she’d been ‘burned’ or whatever, around that time?

I suspect that Kit has had some experience with a guy, for him to come out so publicly as bisexual. Not that you need to be with men and women to confirm, but it certainly does help!

Tangentially related, I always wondered why Deux Moi deleted the Pride thing so quickly. Like, did someone message them and point out that the post was outing someone?

He went to a boys school most of his extra curricular was as a child actor working with adults. Boyfriend first just seems more likely with an uncertainty around how to label his sexuality beyond not being straight. Maybe Maia was his “I’m definitely bisexual” moment and who can blame him? She’s a beauty and is bisexual herself, older and more confident in her sexuality. I imagine it’s been a really inspiring and positive relationship for him

R438 The annoying side of Heartstopper twitter that hates anyone who mentions that Joe and Bash are dating harassed them to take it down.

R438 someone commented on the deuxmoi sub that they had messaged her saying Kit and Bash (eyeroll especially on the second one) had never come out. I honestly stick by the other guy / potential boyfriend being Connor, primarily because the person was fully confident Bash and Joe were together as they were kissing and cuddling etc. Given how physically affectionate he’s been with Maia fully in public, I doubt he was in a more private VIP tent at a pride event with a boyfriend and wouldn’t do something that would signify they were definitely non platonic. The arm around one another/tight hugging etc he and Connor have done in the past lines up more to me, especially as the person didn’t mention recognizing Connor and likely thought “hot guy of comparable age hanging out with Kit but not in the cast = likely boyfriend.” Think it’s very plausible he’s had a boyfriend or male relationship in the past as he has played the pronoun game but that specific incident I think was Connor.

R438 Fans got mad about it and DM her.

I also still think the "boyfriend" was Connor. Though maybe they were flirtier behind the scenes. The person still said I think, so it wasn't like 100% like with Joe and Bash. Just not sure Kit would bring a boyfriend out in public like that while not being out. Though do tend to agree that he wasn't dating Sof. Joe hasn't denied dating Bash. Kit hasn't denied dating Maia. They just won't admit it. He flat out denied dating Sof.

Though I think the unfollow was probably more than just she was a clout chaser, she had always been like that. Something teenage dramatic probably happen. Or he could have asked her to cool it and she wouldn't so he just cut her off. It's interesting the first person to unfollow her was Will and Kit's closest to him.

R440 I remember that and then they said it was fake anyway since how could the person know that was Joe's mom. Maybe because they have the same face. And it was a fan.

R442 the “how do we know it was Joe’s mother, FAKE!” was so funny. I think the same thing happened with daily mail conspiracy theories that someone had “sold them out” because how would they know Doulla was Bash’s mum?? 1. Both of them have insanely strong genetics and look almost identical to their sons 2. They could have literally just heard them say “Mum”. Not rocket science

[quote] Tangentially related, I always wondered why Deux Moi deleted the Pride thing so quickly. Like, did someone message them and point out that the post was outing someone?

I always thought this along with the possibility as Kit had only just turned 18 himself that the boyfriend may not have and still be a minor. If that was pointed out and I could see them removing it pretty quick.

[quote] someone commented on the deuxmoi sub that they had messaged her saying Kit and Bash (eyeroll especially on the second one) had never come out

I didn’t know that. Dear god some of these girls are never going to let Bash out of the closet are they?What more does a guy have to do short of jumping his boyfriend in public

R444 the amount of PDA their families and mates, especially the cast, have to put up with is truly so funny. The Daily Mail ass grab in front of Bash’s mum (Tbf I think it was just him pulling Joe in by the hip caught at an odd moment but still), the DeuxMoi kissing in front of Joe’s mum, and obviously them being all over one another in the vlogs. It’s pretty cute but hilarious

R444 ‘Spent time taking pics’… there’s no way Kit would bring a boyfriend into that kind of situation if there were fans around. Not if he wasn’t out and had been very specific about neutral pronouns up until then. I agree that it was almost certainly Connor. They might make an actual nice couple if Connor was a few years younger - I always imagine Kit is gonna date people older than him, but nearly thirty is probably pushing it a bit.

R445 I guess he'll have to say it. After Kit came out one of the trolls who was harassing him replied to Kit saying Bash was their next target. As if it would take much to find out he's not straight. The ended up deleting the comment though I'm pretty sure.

Well I would have thought they deleted when someone pointed out accusing Bash of queerbaiting would be laughed out of the room. They cannot be serious that boy has never been near a closet that didn’t hold expensive designer clothes.

Completely ridiculous if slightly disturbing

R449 I think even the contingent that insists bash and Joe might just be friends have to admit bash is clearly queer (they refuse to say gay, but whatever). He’s been so blatant about it it would be legitimately offensive to not say he’s at least that. I do wonder if part of Bash not outright saying “I’m gay” or “coming out” officially (because he’s pretty blatant about it in interviews and the tshirts without outright announcing) is a continuation of his and Joe’s semi privacy, knowing that an “official coming out” would invite speculation. If at some point they decide to be more open I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see him casually acknowledging he’s gay right around the same time

One of the fans who followed them around Paris posted her Live Photos and clips of them

Kit is so nice, hugging fans like that. In their position I would be like Will or Rhea. Running off.

Weirdo of the day: This troll account that is trying to convince people that Joe got hit by a car and died.

That's actually really disturbing.

R453 I think he has 2 accounts. What a weirdo

[quote] Written by Oseman herself, the series primarily tells the story of Charlie Spring (Joe Locke), a gay schoolboy who falls in love with classmate Nick Nelson (Kit Connor), whom he sits next to in [bold]his new form[/bold].

Just read this on Wikipedia. Is this a show about gay lycanthropes?

I’m really not sure it’s that deep with Bash and coming out I think he’s just never been in or hidden anything so any kind of official confirmation or statement would just be clunky, awkward as hell and definitely unnecessary.

If anyone ever asked I imagine he’d give a clear answer but who would even ask such a dumb question aside from teen girls with no grasp on reality?

R456 Would be hilarious but no, I think form is the UK’s equivalent of American homeroom?

So this is a story of gay love between two boys, written by a woman who describes herself as asexual and “aromantic?”

I’ll bet it’s amazing.

R457 you’d be surprised, even a fair few DL commenters call him “half closeted”. I think he presumes people know. His mum likes tweets calling him gay, he’s liked and posted things on IG stories in the past about specifically the gay community and being gay men, and is very obviously dating his male costar. I think there will always be people in denial or who think without an explicit “confirmation” he’s maybe not out, but I agree it’s quite blatant

A form in the UK is a class you are in. The one you go too for registration & various lessons together.

Those troll tweets made it to TikTok and word got back to Joe.

R462 that’s actually so funny. The amount of absurd rumours he and bash have heard this week alone (trump supporter and now his apparent death) must be actually batshit

R462 he must have sought out a comment to reply to. He apparently liked and unliked a tweet about how insane it is to make up those rumours so I’m guessing he wanted to debunk them but also stay off Twitter.

Unrelated but while it might just mean this crew member wrapped and not everyone, they must at the least be VERY close to the end

Joe may or may not have been in Maidenhead today, not sure if this is first-hand or what.

At times like this, one really gets to see the difference in how the Heartstopper fans treat Joe and how they treat Kit. If it had been Kit, all of them would have rallied together to drown this mess but as its Joe who is on the recieving end, I'm barely seeing any 'fans' talk about this.

While I semi-agree that Kit is the general fan favourite, I feel like the conversation on these forums lately has been 'people shit on Joe and Bash but love Kit' constantly going round and round. They all get hate, they all have to deal with fandom nonsense. Joe and Bash probably do get it a bit worse, but I also think there's an element of projection from some people on the forum - wanting to protect the openly gay guys. Like I've said before, Kit gets far more hate on this forum than Joe and Bash - particularly before he came out.

R466 If you search Joe’s name on Twitter there are hundreds of tweets about this. It’s how I found out about his Instagram comment.

Not one of those big accounts had a word to say. Actually the only ones who did also brought up Kit into it for some random reason. They'd lose their shit if Kit was treated like that or if fans treated Kit like they do Bash (cropping him out, putting something over his face).

R467 Most people were dismissive of him, but there wasn't pure hate towards him here. And DL is not the normal fandom.

You said you were barely seeing any fans talking about it, not that it had to be “big accounts” or whatever.

Tons of fans have been furious on Joe's behalf on social media. The person who keeps bringing up how Kit is treated whenever anything happens with Joe obviously cares more about shitting on Kit than about Joe himself. Saying that there wasn't "pure hate" is pretty revisionist. It's only been since Kit came out that people haven't been as douchey about him.

The difference is visible tho. As it's Joe who is on the recieving end of such disgusting rumors, no one cares.

If you're going to try and keep making something that is happening to JOE about Kit, at least figure out how to spell receiving.

This is weird lol. I agree Joe and Bash get a good deal more hate (more both by the numbers and in relation to support received for Joe, and more proportionate to support received for bash). But 1. Kit still hasn’t had a joyride so I’m not sure this is productive? 2. This incredibly dumb rumour probably isn’t the best example

Actually I was just being a bitch that the so called #1 Joe protectors who stay in the trenches fighting for him (according to themselves) said nothing though I agree it's dumb to talk about. Let's not do the oppression Olympics again

I'm surprised he even bothered to comment about this rumor.

R473 Multiple people above literally said that there were hundreds of tweets about it. There isn’t the dramatic hate difference that you’re implying/projecting.

I'm honestly more annoyed that the Heartstopper fandom is so incredibly stupid that they ran with a couple of barely literate tweets from brand new Twitter accounts with 0 followers.

R478

yeah, they really know how to make a mountain out of a molehill. they should have just ignored and left it alone

R478 as creepy as it was I honest to god died laughinf at the second tweet from that troll account. “Condolences to kit connor on losing his best friend Joe locke :(“

They always do that shit. They'd boost random troll nobodies and give them attention. Same with constantly tweeting that you shouldn't say Joe locke is ugly and Joe Locke is not ugly, but always using Joe Locke and ugly over and over again, which makes it part of his search words. Or Kit and queerbaiting. Stop talking about it.

To be fair I also think a lot of the current fandom defensiveness of Kit is honest to god people want to talk about themselves and complain but want to come across as selfless or raising awareness so they use kit. The vast majority of HS Twitter users identify as broadly queer or bi rather than gay. I have seen literally 20x as many tweets complaining about biphobia than complaining about homophobia for instance (example linked). So I definitely agree Kit is preferred / babied / defended a lot more than Joe and bash in the broad sense but I also do think a fair few of them bring him up not because they are invested in his situation at that moment but because they want to indirectly make it about themselves. Of course biphobia exists and kit has experienced it but it’s discussed at a crazily disproportionate rate on HS Twitter, especially considering how blatantly homophobic a lot of the hate Joe gets is.

Would be cool to get the same four as last time, as they’re clearly a close bunch. And maybe some others.

R483 that’s interesting. I’d be very surprised to see Joe do another one, though I suppose never say never. Comic-Con through Marvel seems more likely to me; maybe if bash kit and Will all signed on he would do it with them but seems unlikely. My guess is the “main” in question is Will, but no real idea

R483 R484 I would think Kit, Joe and Bash are unlikely after everything that has happened but maybe the money is enough to sway them (and the others doing it)

I guess it’ll be telling how much they enjoyed/didn’t enjoy the first convention if they sign up for this one too. It was a great source of cute content so can only hope!

I would hope they don’t really if they had been paying attention and read twitter more than they should they would know that many of the hardcore fangirls who were at the last one were very much part of the mob that went after Joe and Bash. I’ve noticed Bash is now completely cancelled among the big accounts no profile pictures or mentions of his name even his previous superfans, and many of them have erased Joe almost as completely.

I understand the psychology of the mob and mass hysteria but I still can’t quite process how two such completely sweet, decent and liberal young men have been cancelled over a mix of things that never happened and some perceived moral impurity.

Being chronically online clearly does remove any sense of perspective and turns some people into the most viciously entitled and delusional monsters

Oooh, this is tempting…

R469 I think I figured out why Kit was being brought up alongside Joe, TikTok tried to kill him off as well.

R491 fully tits out for Joe. I loved that outfit

Well the stills photographer did it doesn’t mean they all have though the noises always were it would wrap by the beginning of December so I’m guessing it must be the final week now for everyone

This panel is December 1 - Joe etc not going to make an appearance apparently but maybe an official announcement?

The stills photographer deleted and reworded his tweet, as expected it was only a wrap on him and the show is still shooting:

[quote]And that's a wrap on my stills work for S2 of Heartstopper, huge, huge thanks to the hardworking crew and talented cast for making my job easy, @see_saw_films for looking after me and @NetflixUK for giving me this fantastic opportunity - good luck with the rest of the shoot!

R496 That’s the second tweet that’s had to be deleted because fans freak out and assume season 2 has fully wrapped… can they all just calm down?

not sure why it matters when it wraps. it'll be done before December, but won't come for months and months. Doesn't really concern fans one way or the other.

R498 Yeah, exactly. I kinda hope the cast do some sort of ‘we’ve wrapped’ post with a bit of reflection and maybe a photo or two, like they did for season 1, but maybe I’m hoping for too much. But either way, fans think that wrapping means season 2 is suddenly gonna appear in their laps.

Well… I guess at least it’s replaced ugly?

Patrick posted this earlier today.

R501 Cute. Not gonna lie, I always assumed Nellie/Echo was a girl!

Rhea wrapped already, guessing most if not all of the secondary characters are done.

(That biography was posted on the 14th, so she’s been done for a bit.)

The Heartstopper cast (specifically Joe, Kit, Yaz, Will, Kizzy, and Cori) won the On Screen Trailblazer award at the Gay Times Honours. Cori, Kizzy, and Pat were there to accept.

R505 Tobie posted an Instagram story to say he was on the way there but then deleted it for some reason

Looks like Tobie and Yaz joined them later on, if you see the official Heartstopper Instagram stories

Cracked me up that Kizzy, Tobie, and Cori posted pictures that included each other and Yaz, as per usual, only posted herself.

Brad really trying hard to endear himself to the fandom and give them attention. Guess I can't blame him for the attempts.

R508 Yaz’s consistency in hyping herself alone 95% of the time and Joe 5% of the time is so funny to me. It’s honestly kind of hilarious how clear it is he is her fav.

Poor Bash even did a story about buying her Vogue cover and she did not care.

Didn’t she also ignore his birthday story for her when she reposted most of the other ones?

Maybe she doesn't like Bash.

R512 Yeah, she ignored it while reposting everyone else. Some just said she missed it, but she spent all day doing it but magically missed only his

I hate to say it, but Yaz gets more annoying with time. It’s fine to be confident, but ‘self-absorbed’ just seeps out of her every pore. I even picked that up in Tobie’s vlogs, but it’s probably even worse now with all the fame.

R515 It's palpable at this point, even in her body language. Her facing away from Joe here is just awkward.

R517 Yeah, everyone else is casually standing and smiling and she’s dramatically posing and sticking her chest out. The world doesn’t revolve entirely around you - especially as this night wasn’t anything to do with you at all, you were there to support friends.

R516 Nothing major, just working his connections. He did a live on tiktok today. But just in general he seems to try really hard to get attention from fans. Though he seems reasonable close to some of the cast and they are just living their normal lives talking back and forth on social media. Kind of surprised he's already getting con invites, interviews and photoshoots though.

He was liked a tweet demanding Alice make James autistic too, as if we need more James in the show.

Yaz seems self important and always on, but must be nice enough for everyone to support her even if she won't ever return the favor publicly.

Plus she's the OG JoeBash exposer who uploaded the pic of them holding hands a week after the cast was announced. So I appreciate her.

R520 both that pic and the live where Bash and Kizzy’s extra, over the top reaction made it clear he and Joe were dating. The original leaker.

R519 he gets on well with Cori etc so I’m sure he’s actually nice but I can see why Joe and Bash don’t seem particularly close to him. That personality type is a little exhausting to me personally.

From the newbies, it looks like Leila is the one more integrated with the cast. She follows Tobie's, Joe's, and Bash's finstas. I don't think Bradley's been given access to any of the finstas yet, not even to Tobie's (who may be his main scene partner).

I know the Joe and Bash beef with Brad was a bit of a meme, but they only followed him after quite a long time. I doubt they are all that close.

R521 That video was the best. Bash's shocked face, Kizzy vibing and not realizing what was going before figuring it out, Yaz trying to fix the situation. Get drunk and do move lives please.

R522 Or Bradley could have his own finsta and follows them on there? I doubt he wouldn’t have access to their finstas when he’s hanging around with people like Cori and Leila who do. But who knows.

It’s interesting that Joe has hundreds of followers on his finsta and Kit only has 52. I guess it fits with Kit being an introvert - and/or he’s very careful with who he allows access to.

This is more deductive reasoning than fact, but right now I'm going with no finsta for Bradley because Lelia would be following it if it existed.

Kit has one of the tighter circles on finsta. Rhea does as well, she has 53 followers. Everyone else has 100+.

Tobie has 26 so he has all of them beat.

I guess some of them - Kit, for example - could even have a separate finsta that's more for non-famous friends/family etc, and his seb.connor one is more of a Heartstopper cast and crew/other famous people one. Either that, or like R525 says, he just has a much tighter circle and maybe doesn't have a huge amount of friends.

R527 The friends he went to L.A. with plus some of his other school friends follow the seb.connor account, so I think it's the tighter circle part.

R524 honestly I think a large part of Joe’s is also him removing everyone from his personal life from his main. All his mates from school, everyone from HS (including a load of the crew), his family, bash’s family, and other trusted mates adds up quick

R528 Ah okay, interesting. How did you come across his school friends? Is it people he still follows on his main account?

R530 The fan accounts found them because they posted pictures while on their trip and tagged Kit, the friends eventually either untagged or deleted the pictures with Kit. There's one left up.

R524 Bradley does not seem like the type to put anything on a finsta... at all. He's in that oversharing about his personal life and interacting with fans constantly phase of semi-fame that the rest of them were at pre-HS. He's a minor character and isn't that close to the Joe or Kit, so he might get to stay like that forever like some of the rest of them

R531 Is the person in front on that ride in his Instagram stories Kit?

I think these videos are new, has to be weird for Will and Yaz to sit there while everyone fawns over Joe and Kit.

Don’t think I’ve seen this little video before - Will playing the piano, apparently recorded by Joe. Can hear his cute giggle at the end.

Man, it blows that they don’t post cute things like that anymore because the fandom sucks ass.

R536 I semi agree but I don’t think the entire fandom is bad - the level of fame is just too much and they feel too observed. It is sad that we don’t get much like that anymore - although recently they’ve posted stuff like the Halloween party and the Disneyland stuff. So it’s not totally gone.

Little video from Pride - Joe hugging Connor. They were so happy that day.

R538 Joe is really cute. He’s so tiny compared to the other guys in the cast (and Connor), it’s cute how he just flings himself on them

The way he flies up Kit's back in R2 will never not be funny.

It’s funny how the other male cast make him seem adorably small, but he’s actually the average height for a UK man (5ft 9).

R541 oh yeah, he’s not short. Just so fucking slim (and the other guys are taller)

Hope some great cast photos come out of this.

R543 Ooh yeah, that would be epic. I'm sure we'll get 50 photos of Rhys either way, lol.

Assuming it's gonna be before the Emmys on 11th Dec. Did they have a wrap party last time? I don't remember them mentioning one - they said something about a lot of the cast going round to Kizzy's after wrapping for some sort of party.

His commitment to having main character energy as a random crew member around multiple now famous actors, one of whom is literally asked about when he is swiping on dating apps, is in some ways admirable

R544 s1 was technically filmed during Covid times so I’m guessing they didn’t have an official one for those reasons (though I’m sure all the young cast met up)

R545

Keep on living with delusions of grandeur girl. People only pay attention to you because they want to know more about the show/cast. I doubt that they are there for him but 🤷‍♂️

Does anybody know where thus interview still is from?

Ooh no, definitely don't recognise that and I think I've seen all their interviews. I wish people would credit where they found photos/stills in the first place!

Goddamit, I think I recognize the interviewer but can’t remember his last name, pretty sure his name is Erick or Erik or Eric and he used to work for TV Guide like a decade ago?

Just kidding I got him confused for someone else but remembered him eventually, it’s Damian Holbrook and this is the OP.

Trusty Matt is straight in there. That guy must literally spend his day trawling the twitter tags

R552 Haha I was just thinking the same - I went straight to his page hoping he’d know, and I wasn’t disappointed.

I hope the interview is released soon cos I don’t think Damian would have predicted the fan thirst that’s already building!

I kinda wish Kit and Joe would do Zoom interviews in the same room for more fun interaction - fair enough if the US interviewers have to be on Zoom.

You can tell that the fandom fraus lurk here because within minutes of r551 posting the link here (when it only had one retweet) they all started retweeting and saying they found it. Super funny.

Love that Netflix is making both of them do a run of FYC interviews. Between this, the GoldDerby interview, the Hollywood Reporter interview, etc. Now I’m wondering if they’ll have them do an in-person FYC event for the guilds in Los Angeles next month.

R554 same happened with me, I posted a screenshot of something here and within 5 mins my screenshot was on Twitter, I’d accidentally cut some of it off so I knew it was definitely my screenshot

Yaz winning this over Joe and Kit is certainly a choice when she was one of the weakest actors in the cast.

For sure r554 when I posted that first photo from ACGTTAT filming on here, 20 minutes later it was the only thing all over Twitter and insta.

r556 Was it the picture of Kit on the Cuban Girl's Guide set? I remember when that happened.

R557 Agreed - she’s a trans woman of colour in the right place at the right time. That’s the main reason for her success - far more than her actual acting ability (in my bitchy opinion).

I get Yaz winning trailblazer awards…but talent ones?

Interesting choice. Good for her though I join others in not quite thinking her performance as Elle merits this. Out of curiosity has anyone seen her short film; if so how was she in it?

R554 Yes it seems no coincidence that the twitter searches have been very quiet of late then they blow up as soon as something is posted here.

I’ve also had the disconcerting experience of thinking I was in a normal conversation and suddenly the whole thread degenerates into a mind numbing twitter spat and I realise I had been talking to, or at least been stalked by, overwrought fan girls all along.

I thought they might have left these threads with the recent quiet but they’re clearly more persistent lurkers than I gave them credit for

R562 Didn’t watch it because you apparently have to pay and I don’t care enough about her for that, but I saw this clip and she’s…there? Her acting reminds me of Selena Gomez where it’s monotonous and any attempt at a spark of emotion is wooden.

Interesting how they both now seem to blur their backgrounds, probably to prevent forensic fangirls assessing every detail.

R564 thanks! Yeah didn’t do much to shift my perspective honestly.

Interview about to drop, it seems! Is this gonna be the Netflix one with the Twitter questions? Would be weird to do over Zoom but you never know.

I’m looking forward to them doing press again. I enjoyed a lot of the interviews they did after season 1. They have clearly gotten closer since then so hopefully they allow their personalities to shine through and have fun doing press.

Here’s the interview - haven’t watched it all yet but Kit says ‘we (bisexual people) really don’t get that much representation’. I’m assuming this interview was after he came out, in that case.

Kit really doesn’t need to be worried about public speaking and saying he’s rubbish etc - he’s so eloquent for his age. They both are.

Kit explicitly calling himself bI and talking about the queer community on set - nice he feels so comfortable and proud of his identity and I’m glad for him that the show did that.

Interesting quote from Joe about putting more of himself into Charlie than he might have liked to (paraphrasing). Do genuinely think that filming self hatred and body dysmorphic scenes this season might be a bit of a mind fuck given the looks based hate he’s gotten and how it’s impacted him. Obviously I’m sure the show got in coaches and experts but even people without EDs or body image issues have said playing anorexics did mind fuck them for a bit.

R571 the referenced Joe quote.

I hope someone else uploads the interview because the way it cuts off feels like a glitch? Also, hope this lands well with the CCA because I’d love to see them nominated.

R573 oh interesting. Kit got way better questions to be fair so if one lands it I’m guessing it’ll be him. Nick had a more showy storyline and he played it well, so while I hope both get in either would deserve it

The guy mostly ignored Joe

It would have helped if, like Joe implied, we didn't all have to collectively act like clueless idiots when it comes to Charlie's storyline because Netflix and Alice are worried about spoilers for a web comic that's been out for years. That being said, even Kit getting in alone would be helpful to Joe next season. If the show is shut out entirely its first season it's near impossible to get into awards for subsequent seasons. Having a foot in would help once Joe starts getting the more dramatic material.

The bit where Kit says that they were able to create a beautiful queer group of people that they deeply love by working on the show was very sweet.

R577 Yeah, loved that! I wonder if he was implying that all/at least most of the cast are queer in that case? He didn’t say a group of queer people and allies.

I personally still think Will isn’t straight.

Alice is saying how exhausted she is on Tumblr again. Come onnnnn, I’m sure you’re tired but people have way harder jobs. I feel like she isn’t used to the full-time daily grind.

One comment would be enough, it’s the fact she keeps going on and on about it, she’s not a surgeon working 14 hours a day to save lives. She needs to get a bit of perspective

R571 I hope it doesn't fuck with him too much. It reminds me of how Chris Colfer came out years after Glee ended to say how hurtful it was that the writers wrote some of his own traits and quirks into the show just to insult and belittle his character for them. Thankfully I doubt Alice will throw in anything about his ears and Joe seems like someone who is naturally thin and not someone who has suffered from an eating disorder.

R578 I'm not sure which way Will swings, but it's weird to me that everyone assumes he has a girlfriend because Kit follows a girl's locked account or whatever someone was saying on here. There's been no real evidence of girlfriends or boyfriends.

R579 Someone should force Alice to work a 9-5 retail job for a month and see how she likes that.

Admittedly I don't know much about writing being an accounting major who works 9-5, but I just don't understand how it's that difficult to adapt a story she already wrote ages ago. There's a few new storylines, but the bulk of it should be easy to zip through. I think she might be struggling with how to end the comic and the show with S3, but still... HS is not the most difficult thing in the world to write. But she's very very rich very privileged white woman and should have shut up about how exhausted she is ages ago.

R581 if I remember correctly someone posted on a “big” fan account’s CC originally that they knew Will or his gf in real life and her name. Then when people searched that first name they realized a load of the cast followed her, Sof followed her, Will’s sister, etc. i do think she’s likely his girlfriend as even some of his costars from the Trials follow her but of course he could well be queer, bi, whatever anyway.

R578 They definitely are we have Joe, Bash, Tobie, Kit, Yaz, Kizzy, Bradley, Jenny, Fisayo and of course most if not all of the crew and creatives. That leaves Will and Cori are the two big unknowns but with or without them most of the cast are for certain queer

And of course Alice takes issue with something else. Here she is vague tweeting (vague Tumblring?) about this Guardian article. If they’re so proud of being asexual, normalising it, etc. I’m not sure why they expect it to be off limits when they wrote a whole book about it, and this interviewer handled it very respectfully and legitimately just quoted them on the subject. As the interviewer and the newspaper - especially as the Guardian which is well regarded - I would be pretty peeved by this tweet and more or less burn that bridge with her, which isn’t great for s writer of middling at best skill and not much of a compelling personality. Her PR person and agent must have a hell of a time managing her incredible oversensitivity and ego.

R585 She's bitching on tumblr and not under her actual name, so probably not too many people paying attention. Not exactly sure what's wrong with that interview anyway. The person even suggested she could be the big celeb who changes how people view asexuals (since apparently this is a very pressing issue) and was very glowing from start to finish.

r584 Is Jenny queer? I didn’t realize.

r585 Her being asexual is never treated as humorous and the only time anything is referred to as weird is IN HER OWN WORDS and has nothing to do with her sexuality. What is she even going on about?

R588 I was just about to ask the same - hadn’t heard any mention of Jenny being queer.

R585 That is a really benign, respectful and as far as I can tell completely supportive and positive article. It’s also unusual for the Guardian who have a notoriously terfy editorial line to allow her to discuss anti trans attacks unopposed when it’s probably a dig at them. I don’t know why she’s trying to make an enemy of them when it was an opportunity to get an ongoing positive trans discussion in that paper and I have no idea what she’s managed to take offence at.

I can only assume her comprehension skills and hair trigger outrage reaction is as dysfunctional as the online fan base and she somehow managed to read the line about her “weird hobby” of writing comics in her bedroom becoming her job as asexuality being weird. The more I see of her the more insufferably whiny and self absorbed she seems to be.

The cast especially Joe and Bash seem to have a good relationship with her so I’ll be generous and assume she must be a lot nicer in person than she comes across online

R590 Joe and Bash (the whole cast but those two and Tobie especially) honestly seem remarkably tolerant of or maybe entertained by self centered personalities. Joe is the closest in the cast to Yaz, the two of them are the closest to Alice, both seem quite tolerant of Rhys (as does Tobie). Maybe they find the melodrama funny

R589 I’d read reference to the speech some of the cast did on the stage at Pride where she used we/our when referring to the lgbt+ community. It makes sense she was noticeably front and centre at Pride while Rhea who was also there and presumably straight stayed much more in the background. I assumed it was known though she generally doesn’t get talked about online much

R590- She's the one who said weird hobby, not them. They just quote her. I'm seriously confused why she's upset. You could be right and she has the same reading comprehension skills as most HS fans. Last week there was a tweet about S2 being out before the end of next year and everyone took it as not coming out until the end 2023 and started crying.

Need a new thread soon. Almost 600 posts.

The Joe and Kit interview is still unlisted on YouTube, and it cuts off at the end - so maybe they'll be officially releasing the full version publicly soon?

Another random image floating around Twitter with no identified source. Guessing from last year? Cute though.

R594 I’m surprised the OP got permission from Netflix to post it. I have a friend who’s a member of CCA that I messaged how I’d kill him if he ever interviewed them without letting me tag along, and he was pretty shocked that interview was made public.

R596 Ooh, that's interesting. I did think it seemed a bit odd/fishy - for a normal public interview, surely they'd want to do some proper publicising/posting of it. Rather than a woman on Twitter sharing the unlisted YouTube link with a small ish bunch of Heartstopper fans.

Also, I have googled but it's still not very clear - what is the CCA? How does it work etc?

I hope Joe and Kit were aware it was gonna be shared, too.

R597 Critics Choice Association.

R598 Kit talking about bisexuality is going fairly viral so I really hope they were both okay with it.

R596 I’ve been keeping an eye out on the show’s FYC page and thought it was odd that Netflix had distributed the panel but not posted it on there to be easily accessible for voters. That tracks.

R600 Thank god Kit's already come out at least, or that interview would've been outing him too.

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